Qualifier,am Catholic.On the other hand i think that gives me some insight into the meeting between our President and Pontiff.
Let’s talk about the trip as a whole first. It’s significant. President Trump visited the sites of the 3 oldest religions in the Middle East;also they are the major religions of the Middle East.
Religion plays a huge role in the region.Most of the issues relating to the Middle East are not necessarily political.They’re religious.
First stop:Saudi Arabia. Pres. Trump was there for 2 reasons. One was to telegraph a warning to Iran;the other was to challenge the leaders of Islam re terrorism.The Saudi’s know that Iran and ISIS are both threats to their Kingdom.
He laid it out perfectly. The challenge was for them.Not us. He as much as told them the United States was not going to try to influence their way of life. He also let them know that the United States is going to defend itself. I took away that Saudi Arabia was ready to turn a corner,albeit slowly (in their own self interest.) They have to.If they don’t they will not survive.
The next stop was Israel. Pres Trump was there to repair the relationship with Israel that the previous administration destroyed. Pres Trump made history by visiting the Wall.He was the first sitting President to do so.
The last stop was the Vatican.It was not a state visit. The media hyped it,just as they hyped comments that Pope Francis and President Trump had made about each other.I can assure everyone though that Pope did NOT call Donald Trump a Nazi.Pope Francis would never call ANYONE a Nazi.
I may not always share Pope Francis point of view about all issues but i do obey the Church in all her teachings re the non negotiables. One thing i always do is respect the Holy Father. By the way i show the appropriate respect due to ministers and pastors of other denominations. I make it a point not to attack the doctrines of other denominations.I don’t answer to them- i have no reason to attack them. I DO defend the Catholic faith because i profess to believe what the Church teaches.
I also don’t trust the media when they cover the Pope;anymore than i trust the media when they cover President Trump.They are the last people to report accurately on anything religious since they barely understand anything religious.
For the people who seem to think the Pope is an ecological fruitcake right up there with Al Gore,let me say this. The Catholic Church has always stood for being good stewards of the earth that God has given us.Climate change and the issues swirling around it are debatable.I personally think Pope Francis takes it a tad too far but i am not going to fault him for showing an interest in caring for our environment. I know that he will respect whatever decision President Trump makes on the Paris Agreement. The President has a pov based on how he sees America.The Pope has an obligation to look out for the spiritual welfare of his flock. These are 2 different perspectives. We in America tend to see these issues through a political lens.The Pope does not.
The Pope had the media in a tizzy because he once seemed to them to be saying the Church would approve of same sex marriage.Newsflash:the Church is NEVER going to approve of same sex marriage,abortion,euthanasia,contraception,embryonic stem cell research or cloning.When the Pope was referring to walls he was speaking metaphorically. He will still respect the judgement of Donald Trump as our legitimately elected President to build the wall and enforce our immigration policies. As for refugees and illegals the Pope is guided by one principle.Love your enemies. He is still going to respect the legitimate decision of President Trump to ban certain people from entering our sovereign country.
Climate change is different.It is NOT a non negotiable and we are under NO OBLIGATION to agree with the Pope on the matter.
Now here are some of the comments that made my hair stand up.
Yes,Pope Francis IS the first Jesuit pope. True so far.Here’s some background on their foundation:
The Jesuits have played a key role in the history of the church. For centuries, they have served as its leading missionaries, founded its most prestigious universities and committed themselves to alleviating the deepest poverty.
St. Ignatius Loyola, a Spanish soldier, founded the order in 1540 after being wounded in battle and having a religious conversion during his convalescence. Jesuits are sometimes known as “God’s Marines,” after Loyola’s military history, and their missions worldwide.
The Jesuits take no such oath.
Here is a video of the celebration of an ordination into the Jesuits; also known as the Society of Jesus.It includes all kinds of information related to the order of Jesuits, in the United States.
i can assure you they don’t smash the heads of babies.
I haven’t read the book but i doubt any Pope is going to be a threat to the West when the Catholic Church contributed so much to Western Civilization.We have many problems but i doubt this Pope or any Pope is going to be a threat. I can think of a dozen problems in the West and none of them are related to this Pope.
The Wall was built because of the Muslim invasion and it being a direct threat to the Vatican. The Vatican is located in the larger Nation State of Italy (responsible for it’s own policy decisions.) I think now the Wall remains because it is part of antiquity and to separate the Vatican from the larger Nation State-since the Vatican is considered a City-State.I could be wrong- if anyone has the skinny correct me.
I’ll be honest though.Popes Saint John Paul II and Benedict the XVI have a special place in my heart. They came from a different part of the world under different circumstances than Pope Francis. I also think because of Pope John Paul II’s unique experience under the Nazi and Communist regimes in his native country it gave him a perspective Pope Francis does not have. Pope John Paul II and Pres Reagan had a remarkable relationship;John Paul II seemed to know how to navigate the political headwinds of that time. I don’t think Francis has that gift.He’s a tad more naive when it comes to the secular press. We keep hoping he will stay away from those impromptu airline interviews; we cringe almost the same way some people cringe when Pres Trump takes to Twitter. So often their words get misconstrued or taken out of context.Pope Francis has the additional problem of speaking with a certain Spanish dialect that does not always translate well.
I also think President Trump and Pope Francis will eventually have a better relationship than people give either man credit for (but that’s just my opinion).
Before i wrap this up let me say that since Trump met with the Pope i’ve suffered through alot of anti Catholic bias on the internet ,mainly from my fellow Trump supporters. It’s one of the oldest and still acceptable biases in the United States.It never seems to die. Everything from the Pope is a false prophet to the Whore of Babylon to lesser observations such as the Pope looks terrified of Trump.I have to admit their first meeting was understandably a little awkward but it did improve once they broke the ice.
Pope Francis always has that look when he’s being photographed with heads of state.He gets that ‘i’d rather be somewhere else’ look to himself.
Let me be clear as i end this.I am adamantly pro life. I prefer that our priests remain celibate.Marriage is for life between one man and one woman. The family is the foundation of civilization. I appreciate the religious orders where they still wear the habit & wish they all did. I respect our Pope even when i disagree him with him on climate change and refugees. I voted for and support President Trump and can’t wait to vote for him again in 2020. I know the weight on the shoulders of both of these men, that they must carry, and respect them. Pray for them.Every Pope-from the first to the last-is important but only a parenthesis.We can keep that in mind.
President Trump and First Lady,Melania,in the Sistene Chapel. (BTW they were holding hands).
Pope Francis Encyclical Laudato Si (English) http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html
Mika Brezinksi made the claim today that Pres Trump is not patriotic after claiming the moral high ground that she shouldn’t question someone’s patriotism. Then she did.
Verbal gymnastics of the worst kind.We know the media supported Obama and Hillary.
It’s no secret.They never questioned his patriotism when he handed billions to our enemies in Iran.Enemies trying to develop nuclear weapons.
They never questioned his patriotism when he permitted thousands of unvetted refugees entrance into our country or allowed MS 13 gang members to be let loose to roam our streets.
They never questioned his patriotism with his support of open borders or told Putin he would have more flexibility after his election.He must have been pretty sure of his winning.
They never questioned his patriotism when he permitted classified information to be shared across 16 different intelligence agencies to find some way to take down Trump.
They never questioned Hillary’s patriotism when she put up her private email server,shared classified info and destroyed the evidence.
They never questioned Obama’s patriotism when he permitted(if not encouraged)the IRS to target Americans he considered his political enemies.
They never questioned Hillary or Obama’s patriotism when Trump was spied on and names unmasked.
They never questioned Hillary’s patriotism even after the Wikileaks emails revealed the Clinton campaign’s plan to push a Russian collusion story about Trump before he was even elected.
They never questioned Obama and Clinton’s patriotism for the Resistance/Antifa movement (DOMESTIC TERRORISTS)when it went violent in the streets or the DEEP STATE they controlled when it released false info about Trump.
Donald Trump was in the public eye for years.Nobody doubted his love of country then. Nobody doubted his love of country when he was helping the vets or the city of NY and Mayor Koch with his skating rink debacle . They never doubted his patriotism when he donated to various campaigns,both Republican and Democrat.
Nobody doubted his patriotism when he preferred being FINED rather than take down our flag over his golf course.
Nobody doubted Pres. Clinton’s patriotism when he fired his FBI director,only when Pres Trump used his rightful authority to fire FBI director Comey.
Nobody questioned Pres.Obama’s patriotism when he made the terrible nuclear deal with North Korea.Nobody questioned Obama’s patriotism when he looked the other way as our police officers were assassinated in the streets.
Basically nobody questioned Obama or Hillary’s patriotism when they all but destroyed our country(and are STILL trying)yet Mika questioned Pres.Trump’s to DELIBERATELY cast doubt on his love of [our\ country.
I’m going to question Mika’s patriotism,along with the rest of the media,for their attempt at a coup because they did not like the election results.Let’s not forget how the media colluded with the Clinton campaign to help her in her election bid and cried when Trump won. Let’s not forget how the media went out of their way to actively delegitimize his election the very day he won and tried to persuade the electoral college to vote against him. They forget that MILLIONS of Americans cast their vote for him and so they spat on our vote from day one.Yet Mika has the nerve to question his patriotism.They may as well question ours.We will not forget the people who refused to show up for his inauguration or the Congressmen who DELIBERATELY held up his nominations;after the Republicans were swift on putting Pres Obama’s through and went to his inauguration,not once but twice. Our eyes work.
We KNOW what you’re trying to do. You may not like it but this is NOT a banana Republic and we are never going to permit you to destroy our country for the sake of the candidate YOU wanted or delegitimize our vote.
The media should be ashamed of itself but it’s not. Remember Saul Alinsky and his evil Rules for Radicals;the end justifies the means? Ethically speaking that is indefensible.
Let Dick Morris spell it out for you Mika.Not that you don’t already know.